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The Stories Between Us

Dec 17, 2019

Shawn and Maile reflect on the darkness of this particular Advent season and the death of Shawn's grandmother. They wonder if the way she lived her life might serve as a model for living a good creative life.

It's the final episode of Season One! They explore what the next season might look like for the podcast and...


Dec 10, 2019

Maile and Shawn talk about the previous episode, where they got their kids' opinions on having writers for parents.

They also realize that their current strategy to get Maile writing isn't working anymore, so they regroup and make a new plan.

Finally, Shawn's latest royalty statement arrives!


Dec 3, 2019

Shawn and Maile invite their two oldest children onto the podcast to discuss everything creative: What's it like being creative kids in a large family? How did they feel when they realized both of their parents are writers? Would Lucy, after seeing the creative struggles of her stay-at-home mom, choose to have children...


Nov 26, 2019

Maile and Shawn begin by talking about royalty statements and how sometimes they can be a twice-annual reminder of a book you wrote that didn't quite meet your hopes or expectations. Shawn vents about online courses and how many of them try to exploit writers. And they each end the episode by mentioning...


Nov 19, 2019

Maile reflects on how a recently-watched episode of the Berenstain Bears on envy reflected some of her feelings of jealousy towards Shawn and where he is in his writing journey. Shawn admits his cluelessness about various aspects of their marriage. It's also an episode where they talk about important questions that have...