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The Stories Between Us

Nov 24, 2020

We talk about the myth of the undiscovered genius and why this is a dangerous road for a writer's mind to travel, as well as how knowing the truth (that we're all mortals who simply need to work harder at our craft) is actually good news. Plus, the writing 101 lesson that has Maile and Shawn encouraged and ready to get...


Nov 17, 2020

We talk about the benefits of creativity for children and adults. Maile gushed over a new children's Christmas book and shares about an inappropriate Christmas story she wrote when she was in second grade. Shawn doesn't care about the world anymore because he has his own office in the basement. And they reveal...


Nov 12, 2020

Jamie Kocur joins us to talk about songwriting, creating in the margins, and her new book, My CCM Soundtracked Life. Shawn is concerned her disillusionment might destroy his childhood memories of Michael W. Smith and Amy Grant. Maile has no such concerns, as she grew up listening to Air Supply. We talk about how small...


Nov 10, 2020

Shawn admits to Maile that, unbeknownst to her, he did apply for their family to move to New Zealand. He gushes about a book he's currently reading (although he's not sure he's allowed to talk about it). Maile's recent delight is parenting the youngest two. 

But what they really dig into is the old saying, "Write what...


Nov 5, 2020

Susie Finkbeiner joins us to talk about providing her children with an example of an artistic life, what it's like researching historical novels, and how to find time for creativity in a sometimes hectic life. 

You can find out more about Susie and her work over at her...