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The Stories Between Us

Dec 3, 2021

We reminisce about our ongoing love affair for all things Over the Rhine and remember the time we listened to their song "Born" to get Maile through labor (which almost happened at a stop light). 

We also explore this idea of returning to the fun of creativity, instead of writing what we "should" or what others expect...


Nov 19, 2021

When our youngest daughter overcame her fear of roller skating and looked up at Shawn, she said three words that we're going to explore deeper today: Never Give Up. What does that even mean for a writer, when there are no guarantees? And how can we keep going, never give up, when everything around us is suggesting we...


Nov 11, 2021

Could a place as ordinary as the laundry room office become a sacred space? Today Maile and I are talking about the places where we write, where we've written in the past, and whether or not the laundry room office can welcome the muse...or not.

We also talk about the joy we've experienced for the last nine months,...


Nov 5, 2021

How does adopting a child, taking ten years to write a novel, and more than 60 rejections shape someone's creative life? Kelli Stuart lets us know in today's episode, where we talk about writing in the midst of family life and what it looks like to be willing to give up writing...only to have it returned to you in a...


Oct 29, 2021

Today we're talking all things scary: books, movies, Maile's early adherence to Gwen Shamblin's Weigh Down program. Yeah. Not even kidding. But we also talk about what scares us creatively, our deepest, darkest fears. Join us. Don't be afraid.